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#1 December 27, 2009, 9:10 am

fishwacky
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From: truro nova scotia
Registered: January 10, 2009, 11:52 am
Posts: 451

Cardinal Tetras ARE DISAPPERING

Ive noticed that my Cards are slowly dwindling, i thought they were hiding in the plants, but upon further investigation i have probably lost about 60 of them.  It is a community tank, the only thing that i think could be having a great snack on them could be bala sharks or large cat fish,  some opinions would be great     also in the tank are various rainbows, clownloaches, tiger loaches, some other tetras, etc.

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#2 December 27, 2009, 9:53 am

clydesmith
Dovii (Wolf Cichlid)
From: Lower Sackville
Registered: January 7, 2009, 3:21 pm
Posts: 839

Re: Cardinal Tetras ARE DISAPPERING

black hole or bermuda triange. FOR SURE.


125g African Cichlid Mix - 90g Grow out tank - 48g Fry Tank - 33g Fwa River Blood Throats- 10g Quarantine

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#3 December 27, 2009, 9:54 am

clydesmith
Dovii (Wolf Cichlid)
From: Lower Sackville
Registered: January 7, 2009, 3:21 pm
Posts: 839

Re: Cardinal Tetras ARE DISAPPERING

clydesmith wrote:

black hole or bermuda triange. FOR SURE.

Sorry. I was joking..60 fish is a lot of likely dead fish. I am not knowledgeable about community fish so I dont know what could have happened.

Last edited by clydesmith (December 27, 2009, 9:55 am )


125g African Cichlid Mix - 90g Grow out tank - 48g Fry Tank - 33g Fwa River Blood Throats- 10g Quarantine

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#4 December 27, 2009, 10:29 am

gray0714
Upside-down Catfish
From: Halifax
Registered: June 24, 2009, 2:42 pm
Posts: 102

Re: Cardinal Tetras ARE DISAPPERING

When i had community fish i had a rainbow shark that became aggressive and hungry when it got big.  He ate about 10 platy's, a bunch of gouramis, some barbs, and even a couple other sharks.   So it  could be your shark... although i never had a bala shark

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#5 December 27, 2009, 11:11 am

fishwacky
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From: truro nova scotia
Registered: January 10, 2009, 11:52 am
Posts: 451

Re: Cardinal Tetras ARE DISAPPERING

LOL thats ok clyde, i would say they have  been disappearing over a few weeks period, not a carcus or hint of one to be found.   Could be a black hole

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#6 December 27, 2009, 11:13 am

stevehartlen
Guppy
From: dartmouth
Registered: April 20, 2009, 6:31 pm
Posts: 22

Re: Cardinal Tetras ARE DISAPPERING

the bala shark could be doing it my bala destroyed about 20 neon tetras

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#7 December 27, 2009, 11:34 am

Joey
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From: Truro
Registered: June 24, 2007, 1:21 pm
Posts: 2902

Re: Cardinal Tetras ARE DISAPPERING

The "large catfish" in that tank would be my #1 suspect. what species are they?

catfish are generally carnivorous, and opportunistic feeders.

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#8 December 27, 2009, 12:07 pm

komodo182
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From: Fredericton,NB
Registered: July 9, 2009, 1:08 pm
Posts: 1376

Re: Cardinal Tetras ARE DISAPPERING

I would guess the catfish. They normally have large mouths. I have 4 balas and they have never touched anyone. As for my 4 lined pictus catfish, I would not trust him/her,lol


"When life gives you lemons, you clone those lemons and make SUPER lemons"

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#9 December 27, 2009, 12:08 pm

Kribby
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From: Halifax NS
Registered: August 26, 2009, 7:51 am
Posts: 546

Re: Cardinal Tetras ARE DISAPPERING

could be anything that has a lare enough mouth and can catch them

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#10 December 27, 2009, 2:21 pm

RiverStone
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From: Cole Harbour, NS
Registered: December 4, 2006, 4:19 pm
Posts: 344

Re: Cardinal Tetras ARE DISAPPERING

Sorry to hear that Cindy.  I'm with the others on the big cat.  Although I have a large loach that used to take out my guppies when I had them.

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#11 December 27, 2009, 2:49 pm

manyfishmurphy
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From: St. John's, NL
Registered: October 20, 2005, 9:25 am
Posts: 287

Re: Cardinal Tetras ARE DISAPPERING

My money is on the catfish.  They are nocturnal and a sleeping tetra is probably a serious temptation, especially the long skinny kind that just slide down...neutral

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#12 December 27, 2009, 3:19 pm

carriej
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From: Miramichi
Registered: March 16, 2008, 6:47 pm
Posts: 343

Re: Cardinal Tetras ARE DISAPPERING

I only have about 7 cardinals left (big ones) that managed to survive the wrath of my pictus cat, I didn't think he was doing it until I seen him one day swimming with a cardinal tail still sticking out his mouth... He ate about 20-25 in the span of about 8 days. Let's just say I moved the cardinals!

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#13 December 27, 2009, 4:22 pm

GaryS
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From: Stratford PEI
Registered: March 1, 2007, 7:12 pm
Posts: 400
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Re: Cardinal Tetras ARE DISAPPERING

Have any of you heard this phrase?

I forget where I heard this I think it was from my marine biologist brother.

"All long barb cat fish are carnivorous! But not all carnivorous cat fish have long barbs!"

So if they have long barbs then you need to watch them for sure and if they have short barbs you still need to watch them if they have a predator like mouth.

Sorry for your lose, been there done that, but boy Pictus are beautiful cats.

Last edited by GaryS (December 27, 2009, 4:23 pm )


If you don't feed them, you don't have to change the water tongue  I currently have a 12 tanks ranging from 5 to 23 gallons plus 1, 3 and 4.5 gallon bowls.  All of them are planted and mostly community fish.

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#14 December 27, 2009, 9:15 pm

mcoolen
Upside-down Catfish
From: Halifax
Registered: July 11, 2008, 12:29 pm
Posts: 97

Re: Cardinal Tetras ARE DISAPPERING

I had a 2.5 inch bumblebee catfish that ate about 11 of my neon tetras before I got rid of it.

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#15 December 28, 2009, 4:48 am

bright eyes
Sea Urchin
From: Halifax NS
Registered: September 20, 2009, 5:37 am
Posts: 105

Re: Cardinal Tetras ARE DISAPPERING

I read somewhere about catfish that if the mouth is pointed down then they are scavengers and if it's straight out then they will eat whatever will fit in the mouth. Is that a true statement?

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#16 December 28, 2009, 5:54 am

Graham
Moray eel
From: Brookside, NS
Registered: July 23, 2005, 10:18 am
Posts: 2547
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Re: Cardinal Tetras ARE DISAPPERING

bright eyes wrote:

I read somewhere about catfish that if the mouth is pointed down then they are scavengers and if it's straight out then they will eat whatever will fit in the mouth. Is that a true statement?

Not really, It just means that they eat normally from that direction. Lot of fish with up turned mouths eat from the surface of the water or at least take food from above them. Down turned mouths from below their body...such as some catfish or some Africans. Cats with barbels use them for digging around in the substrate. A straight out mouth, from anywhere....but they'll all eat whatever they deem as food and that'll fit in thier mouth. 

G


5000 gallon koi pond, 2500 & 750 gallon holding tanks, 175 gallon African tank, 90 gallon Discus tank

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#17 December 28, 2009, 11:02 am

fishwacky
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From: truro nova scotia
Registered: January 10, 2009, 11:52 am
Posts: 451

Re: Cardinal Tetras ARE DISAPPERING

Yeah my #1 choice is the catfish, putting him in with the africans.   Guess another order of cardinals will be in the future LOL

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#18 December 29, 2009, 6:13 am

purralot
ECAS Member
From: Lower Sackville
Registered: February 3, 2009, 2:33 pm
Posts: 156

Re: Cardinal Tetras ARE DISAPPERING

Sorry to hear of your loss mine are doing fine.  Keep me posted on your next order.  Have a happy Holiday'
Dorothy


64  gal bowfront community,40 gal corner community tank, 40 gal. bowfront tetra,angelfish 33 gal live bearing
tank, 20 gal holding tank

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